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      Native speakers are not feel problem

      When I say sheen, kaaf or Chay; people living in sub-continent, chinese Arabic or Persian language speaking, can easily understand that these are their language alphabet sounds/traces. But people of the west or where these sounds are not available in some languages of the world, there people can not easily understand my point of view. Firstly I will try to explain that what is sheen, kaaf or chay. These are the sounds of the alphabet (letters) in Urdu, Punjabi, Barahvi, Balochi, Sindhi, Rajistani, Mivati, Gojra, Haryana, Dakni, Pothohari, Saraeki, Arbitrary, Farsi and many other languages. There forms are as under:
      sheen: sh ش It is alphabet sound of subcontinet's language and also in used and
      regular alphabet letter of Arabic and persian.
      kaaf k, c, ch ک for geting this sound in English often c (cat), k (kite) ch (school)
      are used.)
      chay: ch چ for taking this sound in English, often the sound made by a compound ch
      is used. For example, look over these words: chest, cheep, peach, change, church
      khay: kh خ This sound is pure Arabic sound, but very common in many languages of the sub-countinet and
      have much commentary in Persian.
      Second point is this that a germen even the English can easily under that in these words:
      standcliche nietzoche, Fitche, charade, chauvanism. compound sound ch is providing sound sheen (sh).
      While croce (Atalian) there ce is pronounced sheen (sh); Ka ro shay.
      Some where ci is also providing sound sheen (sh) for example have a friendly look over these words:
      facial precious
      Sh, composed sound is very common and very clear gloss sound letter. For reference see these words:
      shift, sheet, shirt, shawal, shrink sheep, shall
      Some where si is used for letter sheen (sh). In these words si is providing sound sheen (sh):
      Asia, Malaysia
      In many places composed gloss ti gives the sound sheen (sh):
      action, mention, essential, potential residentional confidentional


      Native speakers or even the english speaking persons will not feel problem or difficulty to pronounce these so many compound sounds but same position is not with the none-natives or those who are living in the east or for east. They can read these compound sounds very different way other then the nativess. For example:
      ch for chay chest
      ce for si/ke cource, resource, force
      Compound sound sh in sub-continent for roman script is used for sheen (sh). For example:
      shak (doubt), sharbat (sweet drink), shadi (marriage, happiness) etc.
      si for si sick, silk, sink
      ti for ti citi (city), socity/sociti (socity), beauti (beauty), preti (pretty)
      For the removal of these severe comlications, I have suggested letter S (shes) which canbe used for sound sheen (sh) insted of using different componds for geting sound sheen (sh).
      Compound sound ch has also many complications in pronounciation for none natives. This compound sound needs special attantion and of language experts. It almost provides five different sounds:
      1- chay (ch)
      chary che re, ch are
      chaser cha sor
      2- kaaf (k)
      chasm ka zam
      chemistry kai mist ri
      3- sheen Sh/S
      chassepot sha s po
      chasseur sha suo
      4- h (eh)
      chasid ha sid
      chasidic ha si dik
      5- khay (kh)
      munich, mu nikh
      boch bokh
      zolicha zo li kha
      In various languages of east or for east, sh is used in roman/romanji script for sound sheen. For example see these words:
      shak (doubt)
      sharbat (sweet drink)
      shadi (marriage, happiness)
      shamil (included)
      shola (flame)
      si for si sick, silk, sink
      ti for ti citi (city), socity/sociti (socity), beauti (beauty)
      Linguists should be to resolve the case arises because the sounds of these compounds. They must provide letters of the alphabet to the sounds made. So ch, sh, ci, ti, si etc. are not only the sounds made by compounds that have complications.


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      Re: Native speakers are not feel problem

      Thanks for great sharing






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      Re: Native speakers are not feel problem

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